What happens when protecting people becomes controlling them? Out of Control! challenges coercive leadership in the church and offers practical ways to build healthier, safer communities where truth-telling is welcomed, power is shared and faith and freedom can coexist.

Elise Heerde is an Australian mental health practitioner and certified coach specialising in religious trauma and high-control systems. She combines lived experience and professional training to support recovery from coercive systems. Elise is co-director of Religious Trauma & Cults.
David Warren is a retired pastor, school teacher and leadership coach. Alongside transitioning churches David has established a variety of community projects and charities through collaboration with various organisations. David has an MA in Missional Leadership.










